At the April 10 Los Angeles premiere of the fully authorized Nick Menza documentary “This Was My Life: Nick Menza’s Metal Memories With Megadeth And Beyond”, former MEGADETH bassist David Ellefson spoke to IndiePower TV about the highlights of his time playing with the late MEGADETH drummer. Ellefson said (as transcribed by BLABBERMOUTH.NET): “[There were] some personal ones, like when he first got in the band. I was getting sober. [He was] taking me out. We’d go mountain biking. We’d go to his house. He’d go to Gelson’s and buy his orange roughy and make fish, and that kind of stuff. So those are some personal moments that were awesome, priceless. On stage? We had great creative moments. He was funny. We made, obviously, some great music together. And we were a team back then. That lineup was a team. We all had different roles, but we were a team, and we had each other’s back. If there was a problem, we would fix it. And it was great. That was a great band to be in, during that period. And honestly, once Nick had left, the dynamic started to change quickly, and then it became not that anymore. And the audience knows it too, and I think that’s why the audience loves that lineup and that’s why Nick will always be one of the favorite sons of heavy metal.”
Regarding why a reunion of MEGADETH‘s “Rust In Peace” lineup, also featuring guitarist Marty Friedman, failed to materialize more than a decade ago, Ellefson said: “Well, I told Nick. I saw him one day in the drum hall at NAMM. And we had connected, and it was very cool. And then I told him, I said, ‘Hey, listen. I don’t know this for sure. What I’m sensing’ — ’cause I was in MEGADETH at the time — I said, ‘Dude, you’re gonna get a call. It might not be tomorrow, it might be a year from now, but you’re gonna get a call. Something’s gonna kind of turn here.’ And sure enough, about a year later, I think I saw him again at NAMM at an autograph show and I said, ‘Dude, your number’s coming up.’ So I gave him an advance warning. I said, ‘Get ready.’
“Now, I think, honestly, with Nick, he was a different physicality,” Ellefson explained. “Drummers take the hit first — age, joints, everything about it. Everything about it. And he was just in a different place. He wasn’t the Nick Menza that we knew, the 25-year-old spry ‘Rust In Peace’ guy. And who would be? You’re 50 now. But his heart was in it. I think it was a challenge to kind of come all the way back around. And again, we tried. There was an initiative from management, ‘Hey, let’s put this together.’ And then I was the one who really put the logistical, pragmatic brakes on it. And I just said, ‘Marty‘s off in a whole other world. He’s been on his own. Does he even wanna come back and do this again? Nick — can he do this again because of just the years that had gone past?’ And so, you look at that, and you go, look, if it can’t be as good as what we did with [the] ‘Rust in Peace: Live’ [live Blu-ray, DVD and CD] from the [Hollywood] Palladium in 2010, when I went back in the band, if it can’t be that good, then why ever revisit this again? Sometimes things are better left in infamy, and as we tried it, we remained friends from it, which is great. But it just wasn’t meant to be as a business plan or even as a next musical chapter for any of us.”
The opportunity for MEGADETH‘s most celebrated lineup to regroup arose following the departures of guitarist Chris Broderick and drummer Shawn Drover in 2014.
Menza and Friedman had met with MEGADETH mainman Dave Mustaine and Ellefson at the 2015 NAMM show in Anaheim, California to discuss a reunion of the “Rust In Peace” lineup.
Friedman, who moved from America to Japan in 2003, opened up about his reasons for turning down the MEGADETH reunion in his autobiography, “Dreaming Japanese”, which was released last December via Permuted Press. Reflecting on the “salary offer” MEGADETH‘s then-manager Ron Lafitte made for him to rejoin the band, Friedman wrote: “Let’s just say he wasn’t even in the ballpark. Hell, he wasn’t even in the parking lot for the ballpark. The amount they offered was right around the first salary I got when I joined MEGADETH in 1990. If I’d had any idea they would lowball me like this, I never would have met with them in Anaheim. Had I taken that offer, I would have been paid less in a week than I made in a normal day in Japan. I was stunned and angry and told them I couldn’t even consider it. I made a counteroffer, which was the bare minimum I could accept, and far less than I have received from any of the artists I’ve toured with in Japan.’
Referencing the fact that Lafitte floated the possibility of a MEGADETH tour with IRON MAIDEN as the first order of business after the reunion of the “Rust In Peace” lineup, Marty continued: “I was willing to take the financial hit because a reunion tour with MEGADETH opening for IRON MAIDEN could open doors for me again in America. And what followed could be a bigger tour than anything we had previously done. Even if they met my rate, the tour would have been a huge windfall for them. They easily could have agreed to that, and the reunion would have been on, but they said I wanted too much money.”
Friedman added: “I was happy with my career in Japan, doing what I loved, making real money without the kind of drama that comes with MEGADETH. They didn’t even acknowledge they had just lost their guitarist and drummer and needed me more than I needed them. When I got over my initial anger, I was puzzled and sad.”
Marty previously opened up about why the MEGADETH reunion failed to materialize in Mustaine‘s 2020 book, “Rust In Peace: The Inside Story Of The Megadeth Masterpiece”, which details the making of the iconic record “Rust In Peace”.
“My main thing was I’d be happy to do it, but I’m not going to take less money than I’m already making to do it,” Marty said in part.
“I’d been in Japan for more than ten years cultivating a career with solid rewards. I was making money not only for myself but also for my management and staff. My manager has been with me fifteen years.
“Everything was sound and solid professionally, and when the offer came up to all of a sudden join MEGADETH again, as long as I would not be making less money, I was ready to go,” he said. “But I was certainly not going to take a loss to join a band that, frankly, at that point, didn’t seem like they had too much to offer musically. A couple of members of the band had recently quit, and musically I hadn’t heard anything that they’ve done in a long time. I didn’t know about how relevant they continued to be in the music business. It wasn’t like MEGADETH was on the tip of people’s tongues, at least not in Japan. I had reached the point where people stopped immediately connecting me to MEGADETH and were talking about the things that I had done in Japan.”
According to Friedman, part of the reason he turned down the MEGADETH reunion is the fact that the group is largely seen as Mustaine‘s solo project, with members coming and going every couple of albums.
“Had it been more of a band situation and not such a one-man, Dave Mustaine-main-man party, I might have considered doing it for a little less,” Marty said. “But, at the end of the day, MEGADETH is so much Mustaine because that’s the way he engineered it. I didn’t feel that kind of camaraderie, the four-man diamond, THE BEATLES, KISS, METALLICA. I felt like I would be going out there and tour and it was going to be Mustaine‘s big success. If I’m going to do that, I’m certainly not going to lose money to do that; I was doing great on my own in Japan.”
Mustaine told Loudwire that he was put off by Friedman‘s financial demands when the topic of a “Rust In Peace” reunion was broached.
“Marty has a really successful career in Japan where he makes quite a lot of money,” Dave said. “And this is the part where I thought it was a little weird, where he said he said that he has to pay all his team while he’s gone instead of just himself. ‘Cause I thought we’ll pay you what you’re making so that’s switching horses in the middle of the river — it’s no big deal unless you fall off. And then when we found out that he wanted to sell his merch, his this, his that, his this, his that, then he wanted this crazy amount of money and he wanted to fly first class everywhere. I said to our management, ‘I can’t deal with this.'”
In a 2016 interview with the “Eddie Trunk Podcast”, Mustaine confirmed that MEGADETH didn’t hold any rehearsals with Friedman while attempting a reunion of the “Rust In Peace” lineup.
“Marty had sent some e-mails saying, ‘Oh, man, you know, the fans have this self-inflated importance of ‘Rust In Peace’ beyond what it really is. And I was, like, ‘Huh?'” Dave said. ‘So I didn’t know if that was a backhand to the face of the fans or not, but he had basically said that if we were gonna do anything, it had to be better than ‘Rust In Peace’. And he sent me over some links to some songs that he thought should be the direction that we were going in, and one of it was this J-Pop band with some Japanese girl singing, and I was, like, ‘Uh-uh. This ain’t gonna work.’ More power to [Marty for being into that stuff]. Do what you want, Marty. He’s a great guitar player. But I’m not gonna sing like a Japanese girl.”
Menza was approached by Mustaine and Ellefson to replace Drover at the end of 2014, and he started working out new tracks with the band. But the plan collapsed after he was offered a contract he described as “very unfair.” A year and a half later, in May 2016, Nick died after suffering a heart attack during a concert with OHM: at The Baked Potato in Studio City, California.
Source: blabbermouth.net
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